Talk:Obenseuer/Machines
I would consider linking this article to Furniture Crafting as that article has all the furniture (including all of the machines mentioned here) assembly/disassembly recipes and also all of the information where the machines can be bought/sold - Octopussy (talk) 17:40, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
- The Furniture Crafting detracts from its original purpose of describing and explaining how the mechanic of crafting furniture works by also adding information about buying furniture, or information about furnitures that cannot be even crafter. All that stuff should be a separate page linked from Furniture Crafting. Nextej (talk) 18:22, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
- That is true, but what you suggest is having three different pages with overlapping information. The current situation is only a bit better, information from this page overlaps with Furniture Crafting. I would even argue that some of the furniture mentioned here isn't a machine (containers). In the end, we should either create a page for each type of furniture, or I would personally prefer the fewest mega pages listing all the furniture. Octopussy (talk) 19:24, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
- When both pages were created, they did not have any overlapping information, one's purpose was to list every functional furniture (machines) (which also predates addition of liquid storages), and the other's purpose was to list the mechanic itself. If anything, the current version of Furniture Crafting is for instance at risk at overlapping information from individual furniture vendors' pages about the stock.
Back then I also did not really envision any plans for having a page listing furniture crafting recipes, given that every recipe has to be found in-game first, as opposed to being able to guess them, like it was a case for majority of item recipes, warranting item crafting page. So that was not a high priority.
I agree that as the list of usable furniture has grown, the point of "mega page" that's hard to navigate has lost its appeal, and I too think at this point they should have individual pages per category. Perhaps we could have specific pages about crafting skills that list both all item recipes in that skill, as well as all functional furniture (machines) for that skill. That is for example, moving contents from Obenseuer/Crafting#tabber-Blacksmithing and from Obenseuer/Machines#Blacksmithing_Furnaces to Manufacturing or Blacksmithing (given the tight connection between the two skills). Obenseuer/Machines should be preserved and in turn turned into an index akin to Obenseuer/Game_Mechanics.Nextej (talk) 20:40, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
- When both pages were created, they did not have any overlapping information, one's purpose was to list every functional furniture (machines) (which also predates addition of liquid storages), and the other's purpose was to list the mechanic itself. If anything, the current version of Furniture Crafting is for instance at risk at overlapping information from individual furniture vendors' pages about the stock.
- That is true, but what you suggest is having three different pages with overlapping information. The current situation is only a bit better, information from this page overlaps with Furniture Crafting. I would even argue that some of the furniture mentioned here isn't a machine (containers). In the end, we should either create a page for each type of furniture, or I would personally prefer the fewest mega pages listing all the furniture. Octopussy (talk) 19:24, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
- The Furniture Crafting detracts from its original purpose of describing and explaining how the mechanic of crafting furniture works by also adding information about buying furniture, or information about furnitures that cannot be even crafter. All that stuff should be a separate page linked from Furniture Crafting. Nextej (talk) 18:22, 2 November 2026 (UTC)